Comments on: Full Time Pay for Half Time Work? http://stevenmsmith.com/full-time-pay-for-half-time-work/ Accelerating Team Productivity Thu, 19 Apr 2012 17:51:08 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: Cassandra Estes http://stevenmsmith.com/full-time-pay-for-half-time-work/comment-page-1/#comment-538 Cassandra Estes Wed, 05 Jan 2011 17:29:23 +0000 http://www.stevenmsmith.com/wordpress/?p=32#comment-538 <span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">RT @stevenMsmith1: Full Time Pay for Half Time Work? http://bit.ly/7ubr5w</span></span> RT @stevenMsmith1: Full Time Pay for Half Time Work? http://bit.ly/7ubr5w

]]> By: Steven M. Smith http://stevenmsmith.com/full-time-pay-for-half-time-work/comment-page-1/#comment-474 Steven M. Smith Thu, 14 Oct 2010 01:17:22 +0000 http://www.stevenmsmith.com/wordpress/?p=32#comment-474 Thank for sharing your viewpoint, Kimber. Thank for sharing your viewpoint, Kimber.

]]> By: Kimber Collins http://stevenmsmith.com/full-time-pay-for-half-time-work/comment-page-1/#comment-473 Kimber Collins Thu, 14 Oct 2010 00:15:15 +0000 http://www.stevenmsmith.com/wordpress/?p=32#comment-473 I would happily hire Albert, just so I could model him! How can I become an "Albert!" It seems managers are hung up on "work for me" which sounds rather like slavish elitism. Perhaps if they further specified what Albert constitutes as a "waste of his time," they would find that they agreed with him. You should try reframing it with a "Alan" who is great at kissing up, but doesn't produce well." Managers seem very willing to pay "Alan" hansomely. I guess that makes me a cynic; but, I'm just going on past experience. I would happily hire Albert, just so I could model him! How can I become an “Albert!” It seems managers are hung up on “work for me” which sounds rather like slavish elitism. Perhaps if they further specified what Albert constitutes as a “waste of his time,” they would find that they agreed with him. You should try reframing it with a “Alan” who is great at kissing up, but doesn’t produce well.” Managers seem very willing to pay “Alan” hansomely. I guess that makes me a cynic; but, I’m just going on past experience.

]]> By: Steven M. Smith http://stevenmsmith.com/full-time-pay-for-half-time-work/comment-page-1/#comment-469 Steven M. Smith Thu, 07 Oct 2010 17:54:16 +0000 http://www.stevenmsmith.com/wordpress/?p=32#comment-469 I agree with you Daniel. Thank you for sharing your viewpoint. I agree with you Daniel. Thank you for sharing your viewpoint.

]]> By: Daniel Rose http://stevenmsmith.com/full-time-pay-for-half-time-work/comment-page-1/#comment-468 Daniel Rose Thu, 07 Oct 2010 10:12:03 +0000 http://www.stevenmsmith.com/wordpress/?p=32#comment-468 I'd hire Albert in an instant. What needs to be addressed is the notion of "work hours". Why do we hire people based on something that is, at best, indirectly related to performance? Let's look at better ways to do it. I’d hire Albert in an instant.

What needs to be addressed is the notion of “work hours”. Why do we hire people based on something that is, at best, indirectly related to performance?

Let’s look at better ways to do it.

]]> By: Derek Martin http://stevenmsmith.com/full-time-pay-for-half-time-work/comment-page-1/#comment-462 Derek Martin Mon, 16 Aug 2010 07:14:41 +0000 http://www.stevenmsmith.com/wordpress/?p=32#comment-462 <span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">RT @ndoherty13: Reading: Full Time Pay for Half Time Work? http://bit.ly/cfj516</span></span> RT @ndoherty13: Reading: Full Time Pay for Half Time Work? http://bit.ly/cfj516

]]> By: Niall Doherty http://stevenmsmith.com/full-time-pay-for-half-time-work/comment-page-1/#comment-539 Niall Doherty Mon, 16 Aug 2010 00:21:27 +0000 http://www.stevenmsmith.com/wordpress/?p=32#comment-539 <span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">Reading: Full Time Pay for Half Time Work? http://bit.ly/cfj516</span></span> Reading: Full Time Pay for Half Time Work? http://bit.ly/cfj516

]]> By: CGW Call #33 - Sunday, August 15, 8 am PDT http://stevenmsmith.com/full-time-pay-for-half-time-work/comment-page-1/#comment-461 CGW Call #33 - Sunday, August 15, 8 am PDT Sun, 15 Aug 2010 19:47:47 +0000 http://www.stevenmsmith.com/wordpress/?p=32#comment-461 [...] is no goal | zen habits Far Beyond The Stars | Live a Minimalist Lifestyle and Work from Anywhere Full Time Pay for Half Time Work? Booksresources: Eckhart Tolle - The Power of Now; A New Earth (I don't remember why we posed [...] [...] is no goal | zen habits Far Beyond The Stars | Live a Minimalist Lifestyle and Work from Anywhere Full Time Pay for Half Time Work? Booksresources: Eckhart Tolle – The Power of Now; A New Earth (I don't remember why we posed [...]

]]> By: Steven M. Smith http://stevenmsmith.com/full-time-pay-for-half-time-work/comment-page-1/#comment-435 Steven M. Smith Tue, 08 Jun 2010 22:55:44 +0000 http://www.stevenmsmith.com/wordpress/?p=32#comment-435 Hi Rich, Thank you for sharing your perspective. I agree that saying "don't waste my time" and "I'm only going to work 20 hours a week" would come across poorly. I agree with that there are many sale people who work far less than 40 hours per week. I agree with you that service is critical. Albert is <em>adored</em> by his customers so his service is an asset to everyone involved. I can see why you would want someone that makes 300% of their goal. Who wouldn't? But if goals are set well, I'll take the person who <em>consistently</em> does 105-110% of their objectives each year, especially when compared to someone whose obtainment over three years is 200%, 50% and 75%. I value consistency. I gather you see things differently. I respect your opinion. Again, thank you for sharing it. Hi Rich, Thank you for sharing your perspective. I agree that saying “don’t waste my time” and “I’m only going to work 20 hours a week” would come across poorly. I agree with that there are many sale people who work far less than 40 hours per week. I agree with you that service is critical. Albert is adored by his customers so his service is an asset to everyone involved.

I can see why you would want someone that makes 300% of their goal. Who wouldn’t? But if goals are set well, I’ll take the person who consistently does 105-110% of their objectives each year, especially when compared to someone whose obtainment over three years is 200%, 50% and 75%. I value consistency. I gather you see things differently. I respect your opinion. Again, thank you for sharing it.

]]> By: Rich http://stevenmsmith.com/full-time-pay-for-half-time-work/comment-page-1/#comment-434 Rich Sun, 06 Jun 2010 16:20:43 +0000 http://www.stevenmsmith.com/wordpress/?p=32#comment-434 I think in asking the sales version there are a few key errors in framing the question. First, 105-110 percent of quota isn't all that impressive to many organizations. Outstanding sales people are going to blow it out every now and then. Second, sales is quantifiable, but it's also about service. If you aren't available to others for much of the time, you aren't going to create happy working relationships to the extent necessary. Quite frankly, there are very few 'widget' positions in the world where performance is measured exclusively by quantifiable output. People need to be available and interactive with others for a reasonable portion of the work week. This hypothetical situation simply abdicates responsibility for all the tangential aspects of work. And by the way, there are plenty of outstanding sales people who work far less than 40 hours a week and still get paid well above the 40 hour averages. Their skill in securing that arrangement is to not make awkward stipulations like 'don't waste my time' and 'I'm only going to work 20 hours a week', which only serve to make the worker appear to be a Prima Donna. Give me 300% of goal and I'll live with that. For 105-110% percent of goal you can go work for the competition. I think in asking the sales version there are a few key errors in framing the question. First, 105-110 percent of quota isn’t all that impressive to many organizations. Outstanding sales people are going to blow it out every now and then. Second, sales is quantifiable, but it’s also about service. If you aren’t available to others for much of the time, you aren’t going to create happy working relationships to the extent necessary. Quite frankly, there are very few ‘widget’ positions in the world where performance is measured exclusively by quantifiable output. People need to be available and interactive with others for a reasonable portion of the work week. This hypothetical situation simply abdicates responsibility for all the tangential aspects of work. And by the way, there are plenty of outstanding sales people who work far less than 40 hours a week and still get paid well above the 40 hour averages. Their skill in securing that arrangement is to not make awkward stipulations like ‘don’t waste my time’ and ‘I’m only going to work 20 hours a week’, which only serve to make the worker appear to be a Prima Donna. Give me 300% of goal and I’ll live with that. For 105-110% percent of goal you can go work for the competition.

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